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	<title>Comments on: Bad news for FOSS C++11 on Windows</title>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
		<link>http://pocoproject.org/blog/?p=567&#038;cpage=1#comment-824</link>
		<dc:creator>alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2012 15:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to know they came to their senses. Thanks for the notification.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to know they came to their senses. Thanks for the notification.</p>
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		<title>By: panovr</title>
		<link>http://pocoproject.org/blog/?p=567&#038;cpage=1#comment-823</link>
		<dc:creator>panovr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2012 13:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi alex,
  from Visual Studio blog ( http://blogs.msdn.com/b/visualstudio/archive/2012/06/08/visual-studio-express-2012-for-windows-desktop.aspx ), they have announced that Visual Studio 2012 express edition will support desktop development with C++, C# and VB after heard from community.
  Glad that they have changed their original decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi alex,<br />
  from Visual Studio blog ( <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/b/visualstudio/archive/2012/06/08/visual-studio-express-2012-for-windows-desktop.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.msdn.com/b/visualstudio/archive/2012/06/08/visual-studio-express-2012-for-windows-desktop.aspx</a> ), they have announced that Visual Studio 2012 express edition will support desktop development with C++, C# and VB after heard from community.<br />
  Glad that they have changed their original decision.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://pocoproject.org/blog/?p=567&#038;cpage=1#comment-821</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 04:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a free alternative try Qt Creator 2.5 from qt.nokia.com
you can get get mingw gcc 4.7 from nuwen.net with boost 1.49 already prebuilt in the distribution and c++11 mode automatically enabled.

For gdb you can get from http://code.google.com/p/qp-gcc/

You will have a IDE that is fast, free, has most of C++11, and has a good debugger with STL visualizers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a free alternative try Qt Creator 2.5 from qt.nokia.com<br />
you can get get mingw gcc 4.7 from nuwen.net with boost 1.49 already prebuilt in the distribution and c++11 mode automatically enabled.</p>
<p>For gdb you can get from <a href="http://code.google.com/p/qp-gcc/" rel="nofollow">http://code.google.com/p/qp-gcc/</a></p>
<p>You will have a IDE that is fast, free, has most of C++11, and has a good debugger with STL visualizers</p>
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		<title>By: Paulo Caetano</title>
		<link>http://pocoproject.org/blog/?p=567&#038;cpage=1#comment-820</link>
		<dc:creator>Paulo Caetano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2012 13:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had to go through a moderate amount of hoops to build OSS on Windows, mainly because I use mingw, not VC++.

E.g., when I read stuff like this (my emphasis)
&quot;Microsoft Visual Studio 7.1 (2003), 8.0 (2005), 9.0 (2008) or 10.0 (2010) is *required* to 
build the POCO C++ Libraries on Windows platforms.&quot;

I know I&#039;m in for some &quot;Interesting Times&quot;(TM).

So, I&#039;m hoping this change will mean better support for those of us who are on Windows but don&#039;t use VC++.

Disclaimer: I&#039;ve just found POCO and i&#039;m still trying to figure out how to build it, so my snide remark above may be mistargeted :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had to go through a moderate amount of hoops to build OSS on Windows, mainly because I use mingw, not VC++.</p>
<p>E.g., when I read stuff like this (my emphasis)<br />
&#8220;Microsoft Visual Studio 7.1 (2003), 8.0 (2005), 9.0 (2008) or 10.0 (2010) is *required* to<br />
build the POCO C++ Libraries on Windows platforms.&#8221;</p>
<p>I know I&#8217;m in for some &#8220;Interesting Times&#8221;(TM).</p>
<p>So, I&#8217;m hoping this change will mean better support for those of us who are on Windows but don&#8217;t use VC++.</p>
<p>Disclaimer: I&#8217;ve just found POCO and i&#8217;m still trying to figure out how to build it, so my snide remark above may be mistargeted <img src='http://pocoproject.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sanjar</title>
		<link>http://pocoproject.org/blog/?p=567&#038;cpage=1#comment-818</link>
		<dc:creator>Sanjar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 18:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Starter-developers&quot; will choose available alternatives such as mingw or *nix and this will help grow open-source community base a lot!

After all, it&#039;s Micro$oft.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Starter-developers&#8221; will choose available alternatives such as mingw or *nix and this will help grow open-source community base a lot!</p>
<p>After all, it&#8217;s Micro$oft.</p>
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		<title>By: Josue A. Gomes</title>
		<link>http://pocoproject.org/blog/?p=567&#038;cpage=1#comment-817</link>
		<dc:creator>Josue A. Gomes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2012 22:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is indeed bad news. I have been advocating the Express editions as a start point for students. It is simple to use, help to learn C++ and give the skills needed in the professional IDE.
It seems that Microsoft now is not a developers, developers, developers company anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is indeed bad news. I have been advocating the Express editions as a start point for students. It is simple to use, help to learn C++ and give the skills needed in the professional IDE.<br />
It seems that Microsoft now is not a developers, developers, developers company anymore.</p>
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